Better get the judiciary caulk

b1-66er: (I think) an interesting legal question for you...

Let's say a federal grand jury is called...

... but the state you draw in forbids assembly of 10 people...

What happens,  legally?

 What's the correct public decision for how to behave?

D4rw1n: Legally you would be in an unprecedented situation if state law or municipal ordinance required you to stay home, and a federal grand jury summons required you to serve

Analogous situations have arisen. The applicable law provides an excuse from grand jury service if you can make a showing of "undue hardship or extreme inconvenience"

So the prospective juror in your case could declined to serve, and offer evidence that doing so would subject him or her to prosecution (or, more likely, citation) under state or local law

b1-66er: Super great. 

Extremely interesting. 

One of the things that's interesting in Pandemic World are the seams on the legal highway as you cross from federal into state territory. 

Thank you. 

D4: What you really want to know, is what happens if the judge is a hardass and refuses to excuse the jurors just because they are afraid they will get tickets for gathering in a group of 16 to 23 (which is by rule the size of a federal grand jury)?

66: What say you?

D4: If it ever did come up, I would expect the higher courts to issue an injunction in favor of the jurors, prohibiting the judge from impaneling the grand jury and endangering their health

Federal law would empower the judge to require service. But I would anticipate lawsuits by the jurors against the federal judiciary and the judge. It seems to me that the proper grounds would not be violation of state law, but rather physical endangerment. For this reason I don't think the case will come up, because the judges are too interested in self-preservation to create such a crisis

66: Yes. 

It's hard to imagine any legal system that would say,  "I'm sorry but you must put your arm in the running saw blade."

D4: Exactly. There may be a judge or two who will, but in the end the courts know that they run only if citizens serve their duty. Hard for the whole system to maintain its legitimacy if they start thinking that could make people put their arms in saws all the time

b1-67er: The lawyer next door said all but serious felony cases have been postponed in Monterey County. But it's being treated as a holiday, so the days don't count against statute of limitations.  I imagine that's a thorny issue.

The Dear Hunter's backyard...

... RIGHT NOW. 

At least they left the napkin dispenser chained to the counter

b1-66er: "Toilet paper, hand sanitizer stolen from Las Vegas farmers market"

Special K: These are weird times.

b1: You can always tell when the casinos are closed. 

Off the res.

b1-66er: "Fourteen inmates escaped from jail, 6 still on the loose"

'The inmates were able to escape by breaking open an exterior fire door using a table from inside an annex, authorities shared.

"They decided they were going to break down the door and leave," said Yakima County Sheriff Robert Udell in a video posted on Facebook. "Despite the governor's shelter-in-place or stay-at-home order, apparently they didn't want to do that so they are out and about."'

Special K: Sheriff Funny.

b1: JAIL BIRDS CAN'T ABIDE BY "SHELTER IN PLACE" SPECIAL K!  

What would you do?

Let's say you just heard about Rikers Island and you're IN Rikers Island, what would you do?

K: I'd rage.

Are they Co-vid or Co-bad?

b1: For sure I can tell you where to find them...

The Crow-bar.

Fraternal twin vitrine

b1-66er: I watched Basket Case on my cell phone over the last 2 days...

I'm convinced it's the BEST possible way to watch that movie...

b1-67er (simultaneously) : Probably the best possible format.

66: It's hard to believe I'd EVER say that. 

Shows how truly bad the times have become. 

67: You used to own basket case

66: Oh,  you will SO love this...

I DO,  but the last 2 minutes have been erased ...

... by the magnet that held my videocassette stand closed. 

67: Son of a bitch!  Who's bright idea was that?

66: Prerecorded video tape manufacturer, I'm sure. 

Ever hear of the concept of "conspiracy?"

Or have the illuminati kept that idea from you?

<you, dear reader, yes YOU can (and should) get a Tubi account for your cell phone for free. Do it. Get the app, Watch Basket Case. You'll have to watch a couple ads, just behave the way you always do in an ad land that doesn't have a DVR. Make your life better. Buy me a donut when the crisis is over. If the situation never passes, don't worry about it. >

Don't mind the hot body

Special K: Reading Twitter and the news…the R's are doing a full push to "reopen America for business" next week. Circa April 1.

b1-66er: I thought you'd given Twitter a rest. 

You've decided a still mind isn't interesting enough,  I guess.

K: Dammit, I need to get away from it and I'm flailing.

b1: Maybe if you break your Twitter habit, you break your food habit. 

K: Food habit is doing great though!

b1: Save your body

Ruin your mind

(SM)

K: Oy.

OK. Twitter is going away. 10 minutes x 2 times a day for starters.

b1: That's actually an interesting question...

Body or mind.

     Ruin one. 

Your choice. 

<ed: no response. >

Oh, there b1 goes AGAIN

Cap'n Happy: I think I had COVID in Jan. I came down with something. I kept saying this isn't a cold, and it isn't the flu. I rarely get sick. I typically only get a cold about once every 2 years, and even then it's mild. I haven't had a flu in nearly 20 years. Something hit me in Jan that was weird. I got a pounding headache that put me on my back for 3 days. On the 2nd day I said this is getting serious, and could become pneumonia. If I don't feel better by tomorrow I need to see a doctor. It made me lose my appetite and feel nauseous for about a week. I barely ate and had to force even the smallest bytes of food. By the 2nd week I had a respiratory infection. That's something I can't even remember having for 30 years. I was hacking up some nasty stuff. It started out clear and thick. Then yellow, and then green. After about 10 days it went clear again, but that was about 2 weeks altogether. I also lost my voice for about 5 days, and after that I was horse for another 5. All that time I did NOT have a sore throat. Took about 5-6 weeks to recover, where I felt normal again. Looking back, it was corona. I ask my gf, who teaches a classroom of 1st and 2nd graders if any of her kids were sick. She said over the holidays half the kids were out sick, and it continued for several weeks. I asked if any of them were Chinese. She said no, but then remembered one of the sick kids had a father that got sick after a business trip to China. So, I'm pretty sure I had it before people knew what this was. Like I said, it was really weird. I knew it was a virus but I was certain it wasn't a flu.

b1-66er:

Betting Cv instead of flu is suspect. 1Could be, but I'd bet money it's not, it'll be easy enough to test once that's more widely available.

Were you running a temperature?

CH: I didn't have a fever, but I did have night sweats. I'd wake up soaked and dripping.

b1: I'm pretty sure that puts you out by default. 

It'll be easy enough to find out in a couple months. 

If so,  you'll also be resistive when as it sweeps through thr Bay.

Did you get a flu shot this year?

CH: I've never had one

b1: Flu is far more common. Even now. 

I'm super familiar with, "well, it could be..."

It took three years to diagnose my MS. 

You couldn't have done it with a website and guessing. 

Wish it wasn't. I would've gladly taken an immediate diagnosis.

Three years is a long l-o-n-g time as it's passing. 

Imagine what you had. 

Now imagine it lingering to 2023.

That's what I had. 

Maybe I had Cv early. 

I guess you could go more extreme and say,  now imagine having  some side impact of what you had that never gets cured.  

That's what HAVE. 

For the rest of my life. 

I know,  I know "why can't you let this whole MS thing go? EVERYTHING isn't all MS. "

It is if you're me. 

In case you missed it: for the rest of my life. Incurable. 

You better believe I get a flu shot. 

<ed: no response of any kind. It's not fun when people aren't playing properly in the sandbox. >