I mean what you said i think you mean, i think

b1-66er: Conversation with D4rw1n about this graffito

http://ktxt.blogspot.com/2018/10/just-this-side-of-wall.html?m=1

Suttonhoo: Lion Air went down yesterday -- this tail is Malaysian Air -- that one disappeared in 2014, so I'm thinking not too soon

b1: Me too.  

I hadn't thought of that wrinkle.

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b1: On your first glance at the graffito, did you think it was a reference to the Lion jet that just went down?

D4rw1n: Yes 

b1: Ah.  I hadn't even considered that wrinkle.  Suttonhoo suggested that after reading our TXT thread.

D: In fact it did not even occur to me that it wasn't until you asked me just now

Just this side of the wall

(All this starts with me sending the plane graffito to D4rw1n)

D4rw1n: Damn too soon?

b1-66er: I can understand why you'd say that, but i personally don't think so...is it too soon to wonder what the hell happened to your loved ones that never got explained and you'll never see again?

D: I guess that started immediately and probably won't ever end for the victims' families.

b: So...what do YOU think?  Is it too soon?

D: I take your comment as implicit criticism that I'm thinking of myself as much as them when I ask "too soon?"

I can see both sides of that

I'm the guy who initiated and moderated a fax bulletin board of Dahmer jokes starting the day he was caught 

So a bit of yes and a bit of no

When I saw the Banksy (?) piece you sent my mind first identified with the pain of loss and judged the art to be too soon 

b: That whole thing just creeps me out.  

We've both taken flights that could've been that one.

The plane disappears.  Government demands answers.  People wail.

And then?  Nothing.

D: Now when I look at it from a perspective you suggest (e.g., the art asks the questions the victims' families are probably asking) I can see it as positive 

Yes 

Everyone gone in a flash

b: It feels to me that 2 days after the incident wouldn't be too soon.

There's an interesting question there and that's one of intent.

Is it poking or prodding; or is it compassionate and demanding?

D:  Both? Plus protest and rage and guilt and despair

 It's a beautiful piece of art 

Even for just sparking this conversation 

b: EXACTLY.

 Very very few pieces of art hold that quality.

Especially now in the us-or-them world.

D: Right 

Good art 

b: Look closely again at it.  Look at the blurb on the far R.

Now tell me your impression.

D: Saw that too. It's part of the work. It's painted on the wall I believe 

b: Yes.

I THINK the guy in front is actually just walking past.

D: I had wondered about some of the other stuff. Like is the "Load Studio"  logo part of the work?

I was going to make the same joke 

b: If that IS a guy just walking past, the pic is perfectly timed -- maybe even staged.

D: Also there's a small trompe l'oeil within the trompe l'oeil (am I spelling that right? A word I learned from RJ): the airline logo is designed to look 3D. And it does, even in a 2d painting of a 2d painting. 

b: Yes.

Catch him while you can

b1-66er: i don't know if you've seen/saw this, but it's simply excellent.

https://youtu.be/vsMydMDi3rI

Fungus R Us

The dear hunter:

I consider fungi to be the seashells of the forrest.

Major mushroom season at the moment.

I have not seen some these b4.

<b1--white ball one>Size of honey dew Melon.  A bit huge.

how's that hitting your hand with a hammer going?

b1-66er: How's your work, we never talk about it.

Special K: It's great that it gives me money and insurance, and not demanding. Otherwise it's terrible, boring, dumb. 

First time in my life I can have a boring job and be OK with it, not have to brag about how great my job is.

Loon shot

the former flyer: People are so lame! I was told that there was a joe Rogan/Elon musk interview where Elon goes a bit crazy and smokes pot. My friends were commenting about how he must be suffering from stress and stuff. I just watched the interview and thought it was fantastic. The guy was super open and interesting. Ideas were fantastic. He did take one puff of a marijuana/tobacco joint. Big deal. They also drank whisky. People are so weird. 

b1-66er: one of the weirdest things about the internet -which i never would have guessed- is that everyone's an expert because they can look everything up...

...but people have become remarkably lazy.  so they don't actually refer to the source, they refer to a biased synopsis OF the source...

...but people have become remarkably lazy.  so they don't actually refer to the source, they refer to a biased synopsis OF the source...

...which almost certainly is some one (or thing) that's:

A undereducated

=and/or=

B looking for consensus bias in what they already believe

=and/or=

C have monetary interests in what they're saying...

...i never, ever, would have expected all this to turn out this way.

FF: Have you seen that interview?

b1: no.  I've read about it, though.

I'm not a fan of musk's, so i don't cross into his reality distortion field.

I'll watch it if you want me to.  (you have THAT MUCH) control of my behavior.

FF: I personally thought it was interesting. I liked the discussion about AI. What don't you like about him?

b1: I'm not convinced he's doing anything to save the planet... 

...but a lot of stuff to tear it up.

FF: They talk about planet saving stuff in the interview 

b1: so here's his non-planet saving stuff i know about...

he's making electric cars with no obvious frame recovery and battery disposability...

he's hell bent on getting to mars.  which requires HUGE resources, trashes the Earth's atmosphere, endangers another planet's nearly pristine ecosystem.

FF: Ok. I get your pint of view. 

b1: i think he, desperately, wants to be > SJ.

FF: If you think about it, it's not such a bad desire to want to be better than Jobs. It's better than not trying to achieve anything. I'm sure he has completely messed up ego stuff. But I still find him interesting. I'd prefer to hear about theories on AI and it's future in our society rather than stupid politics and out of date racist ideas being revamped to serve someone's financial agenda.

At least one of us is

b1-67er: Having swype problems with my phone. Perhaps virus.  Almost anytging I swipe prints as "I think"

b1-66er: crazy.

do you NOT think?

67: The second one I swyped as "I am Devo"

I am devo

I think

66: THAT'S GREAT!

i want your phone.